I’m replacing my venerable Dell SX270s and SX280s with much newer Optiplex 780 USFFs running Windows 7. I have two here now and at some point will buy a third. They’re smaller than even the SX270 and almost dead silent. Not bad for a Core 2 Duo with 4 GB RAM. The machines date back to 2009 and are recently coming off 5-year depreciation schedules, so you’re now able to snag one for $200 or less.
As with the SX270s and SX280s (and in fact with most of Dell’s ultra-small form factor machines) the 780 is a cube farm box, not suitable for gaming or video editing but completely suitable for nearly all office work. The machine was designed for central management, and in both of the machines I’ve acquired, the Intel Boot Agent has first shot in the boot order, attempting a PXE boot through the 100BASE-T port. Boot Agent eventually gives up, but while it’s waiting for DHCP to pass down an operating system (these IP addresses don’t burn worth a cent!) the machine just sits there, adding at least thirty seconds to your boot time.
So I F2’d my way into Setup…only to find myself locked out by an admin password. I tried a few obvious ones, then looked online for some indication how to reset the password, to no avail. I downloaded the Dell tech doc, which sent me looking for a jumper that my machine doesn’t have. I then sent off a message to the eBay seller I bought it from with a polite complaint. Fortunately, the seller (who’s sold many of these things and doubtless hears this question a lot) told me to pull the blue jumper from a header marked “Clear Password” on the mobo near the fan. I opened it up, pulled the blue jumper off the header, and shazayum: No setup password. Once I got in, I pushed Intel Boot Agent way down to the bottom of the boot order. The machine now boots into Windows in seconds.
If you’ve got a 780 in hand and want to nuke the setup password and get Boot Agent out of your way, here are some tips once you’ve removed the top panel:
- The plastic front-panel bezel has to come off first. There are three plastic tabs locking it in place. (See photo above.) Two are flat and easy to see. You pull those gently upward, while pressing the third and less obvious tab gently to the left. The bezel will pivot forward and down, and then off.
- There is a wire handle on the disk drive subassembly. Pull up and the whole business will left into your hands.
- Three SATA cables connect the disk subassembly to the mobo. You can pull them all and remove the subassembly completely, or you can remove the blue cable and rotate the subassembly 90 degrees to get it out of the way.
- Look for a blue jumper block near the fan, clearlly marked “Clear Password.” (See photo below.) Yank it with a needle-nose; your fingers probably won’t be able to get a purchase on it. I have a drawer for such things, but if you feel you may need to set a Setup password on it again someday, put it back on one (not both!) of the header pins.
- Reconnect the SATA cable, drop the disk drive subassembly back where it came from, and then put the front panel bezel back. Hook the two little feet at the bottom into their corresponding slots, then pivot the bezel upward until the three plastic tabs lock back into place.
- Button it up, connect it back to the peripherals, and boot it. The splash screen says “Press F12 for boot options” but that’s not useful. Press F2 repeatedly while it’s booting, until the Setup screen appears. From there it’s like any BIOS setup program, and you can set the boot order in the usual way.
That’s all you need to do, assuming there aren’t other Setup items you need to address.
Some other odd notes on the 780:
- The Dell all-in-one mount for the 780 and its successors is hideous, compared to the SX270’s or the still better SX280’s. The 780 fits into a sleeve that then mounts to the stand. The fit is tight. You’re better off just leaving it on the desk. It won’t take up much room.
- There is a PCIE Mini-Card slot on the mobo for a laptop-style Wi-Fi client adapter. I’ve got CAT5E in the walls and don’t need it, which is good, because I have yet to see the adapter itself for sale on eBay, and the tech doc says nothing about installing it. There is an external antenna that mounts on the rear panel and connects to the adapter with a coax cable. I’m guessing that without the antenna, the steel box will keep the adapter from connecting.
- The 780’s video output connector is a DisplayPort, so if your monitor is DVI or HDMI, you’ll need an adapter cable. (Display Port is basically HDMI with additional DRM.)
So far I like it, though I’m still configuring and installing software. If anything interesting turns up in the future, you’ll read about it here.
Hi….. I was inspired by your SX270/280 recommendations, but had very mixed results, 50% failure rate, probably with the capacitor problem. I bought an Optiplex 680 refurb awhile ago which overheats, (works OK if the cover if left off)So, I’m kind of off Dell for refurbs. Maybe I’m a glutton for punishment, but I just bought a Lenovo refurb unit from NewEgg, Win 7 Professional, 250Gig drive 4 Gigs RAM. @ $219.00 including shipping. We’ll see how it goes.
More details at http://blog.techfornonprofits.com/2014/03/tech-friday-xp-is-over-long-live-7.html
Interestingly, out of the 9 Dell refurbs I’ve bought in the last eight years, only one outright died, and I never did determine why. (It wasn’t the capacitors.) I did have a bad cap problem on my Samsung 214T monitor, but it was fixable and the monitor’s functioning perfectly now.
I will grant that I haven’t had the 780s very long, and problems may show up after they’ve been in daily service for awhile. They don’t seem to overheat, and the caps look good. (I honestly don’t think that problem lasted into 2009.) So we’ll see. If they fail, you’ll read about it here.
Jeff,
Where are you finding 780 USFF’s for $200? I’m seeing $350 offers everywhere I look. At that price, it’s hardly worth taking the used equipment risk over a more modern build such as the Intel NUC.
Well, I got two–but it a couple of months ago. Now that we’re XP-6, I’m thinking that Win7 machines are hot. You’re right in that I’m not seeing many at all on eBay right now, and those that are are either $350 or damaged somehow. Once this whole thing blows over I’ll bet they’ll be coming down again.